I've come to the conclusion that people with the ability to prison don't seem to understand how to prison multi's...Now not everyone is not properly prisoning people...But it's still a problem that we need to finally set a procedure up and set limits to prisoning....along with that everyone that has prisoned a multi account past/future is going to be put through a screening to decide if they just went on a whim and decided they are multi's or if they actually attempted to contact the people...So If you prison any multi's in the past 2 months (starting Jan.) you will probably get a message from me...

Anyone thought of prisoning a multi without thinking first will be charged with powerabuse....

Now don't jump down my throat yet, I'm not saying we shouldnt prison multi's I'm saying people prison without thinking or debating with other kages or anbu's.

Recent activity by orochimaru-sama will be the first to be questioned if they should still be kage...All evidence will be first collected and handed to martin/neo for approval...


1318 icefir69 multi (caught by Giriel) DNR Orochimaru-sama
1317 icefir1 multi (caught by Giriel) DNR Orochimaru-sama
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1316 mostafa12345 multi (caught by Giriel) DNR Orochimaru-sama
1315 mostafa multi (caught by Giriel) DNR Orochimaru-sama
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1314 davidsoft1 multi (caught by Giriel) DNR Orochimaru-sama
1313 davidsoft multi (caught by Giriel) DNR Orochimaru-sama
1312 mikaela3 multi (caught by Giriel) DNR Orochimaru-sama
1311 mikaela2 multi (caught by Giriel) DNR Orochimaru-sama
1310 Mikaela multi (caught by Giriel) DNR Orochimaru-sama
1309 VanguardZ multi (caught by Giriel) DNR Orochimaru-sama
1308 VanguardX multi (caught by Giriel) DNR Orochimaru-sama

mostafa was prisoned for multi, after looking at both names 1 account was actually used while the ohter wasnt...All these accounts are less than a month old....Heres the biggest rule for all anbu and kage's should live by when it comes to multi...

1. Communicate, find out if the person even uses the other account or knows if multi is illegal..(people can plead neglogance...)
2. After learning the person is inactive or active this is where you decided...
2A. If the person is active ask them what their main account is...than prison the other accounts and inform the person that multi-accounting is illegal and they shouldnt do it again.
2B. If they do not reply and have not logged in...DO NOT PUNISH!...make a memo and check them each week after 2 weeks they dont log in...make your anbu check every month to see if any accounts have logged in...Keeping records is important, keeps people out of trouble...
2Ba. If the person logs in but doesnt reply inform kages, if kage is the one to find out inform admin than prison..


Most people don't know multiaccount is illegal till after they start playing for a while and start learning rules...Not everyone goes and reads the rules the first day...Ontop of that anbu/kages should know that most multiaccounts are accsidents that are created when they are trying to play the game. First time logging in is the hardest on all new players because they don't realise that its case senstive when logging in, so they make a second account to try again and than a third till they finally get in.

Here is exsamples of first contact before prisonment...PLEASE TAKE THESE IDEA's IN BEFORE MAKING JUDGEMENT!

-All Accounts are in same village.
-All Accounts have not logged in since they were made

-When 1 account has wins/loss and the other hasnt been used since made.
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Most multi's are made and than never logged in Why should we prison accounts that are multi..if they are never going to be used...

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davidsoft1 and davidsoft are the only 1's that should really be prisoned the rest are all in the same village and they are inactive.... The reason both accounts are in different villages thats a big enough reason to prison because the person wasnt trying to start the game in the same village...SO!...again take my idea's and use them how you will but I'm just putting it out there that I will start investigations into possible PowerAbusers...All Kages who come here or anbu should inform their villages and post a thread showing these idea's...This will make the game better and make the job of both kage/anbu easier....

I agree with this...

The prison is filling up with people who probably won't even play the game again, and it makes it look tacky. Also, I thought I was the only one who didn't like DNR lol...

And I agree with putting stupid comments, I think it just makes it look, well, makes the person who put it look childish.

im going to be imprisoning people who ban these accounts without proof and getting anbu to release the "multis"

285 BiggerDouche Created 500k EXP mission in the past which is BAD Will not be released until the world is destroyed. Shikamaru_Nara

dont call shika childish

shika is 14..ur "18"....ur childish...

Besides with what shadow said: They were put in prison in the early stages, and of course it's going to be looser. Just because it was done in the past doesn't mean it's okay now. We need to straighten things up to a new standard.

I'm glad people like the multi procedures that I wrote up =)

Yes i agree with what people are saying, this multi accouting rule of prisoning should be reconised by everyone and i will let my anbu know this.

also i do agree with how people are saying our prison is getting tacky, although i must admit i too have done these mistakes which people do not like, and i apologise.

Also, a question.. when will Kage able to release people again.. (or will they never?)
because.. it is annoying when i prison someone for like only 24 hours on breaking a village rule or something and then i get blamed for not being able to prison them and people spam me.

Also, when you prison someone for multi accounting. you dont prison all the accounts.. just the others and let them keep their main.. right?

your supposed to give all the multis a dnr and prison the main for a certain amount of time....but lots of people are imprisoning multis without proof

I agree completely, you need proof to prison multi's. While it may seem obvious that someone is a multi-accounter there are such things as freak occurrences. And absolutely, with all those people imprisoned it makes the game look bad.

*sigh* I dont really care about NFG anymore but I happen to look at the prison page and saw some newest prisoners and I can't help but ask why these people are even allowed to prison....

1408 Zebagor multi account DNR BlackPenix

1407 Hiruzen Sarutobi IS GUILTY! Guilty of being a Multi account, Guilty of swearing in the forums, guilty of thinking our village wouldn't catch on. He will not be released again. If he is it will b Obsidion

1404 hakulove multi acc ( to prove your innocence make a topic in the global forum) Do Not Release amn@el

1403 sands girl multi acc ( to prove your innocence make a topic in the global forum) Do Not Release amn@el


(amn@el has great idea for setting up multi's post here if u want to be released -but I dont remember if while ur in prison if there is a weblink to the forums...If there is than great all multi's should be set up like that from now on)


Obsidion reprison him and put down somthing that would otherwise not look retarded on the prison list...And whose multi is he connceted too? I say from now any and all multi's that get prison should get their own little thread on this forum that will have the Main account name and under the name has the multi account name so we all know who it's connected too.

Another thing I don't remember if we brought this up but we should put somthing in that if you put somthing stupid or somthing that just looks not professional at all the person should be reprisoned. And Along with being reprisoned the person who prisoned the first time should be prisoned for a short time to learn responibilties of having power and abusing it....

And the final thing I wanted to bring up and I know we have all argued about this well....U saying im wrong....is We should just eliminate the need for PRISONING MULTI's....As it is the game dying right????? And what is so wrong with having 5 characters with 1 user (besides the idea of power abuse on elections, committing other crimes like botting ect ect...) I know it sounds stupid to allow multi's but it would make the game seem a little more active...Villages could actually have wars instead of 3 people attacking each other.....

Anyways just wanted to put the names out there for suggestions and great idea's and to also remind people that all village kages/anbu's should use the procedures because it would cut down the need to prison everyone u see...

Hakulove , sands girl and hiruzen sarutobi all Fukuhon shikaku's multi acc so he must know about the link to the global forums.

Everything started when hiruzen sarutobi was imprisoned. After i talked with Obsidion i i remembered about those 2 "kunoichi".

Obsidion imprisoned sarutobi because first off all he had the same writting style as fukuhon, being the only person in the whole NFG who use " i ame" instead of "i am". Second was his fast lvl up , because in a few hours he was lvl 8.

I imprisoned those 2 because :
sands girl :
- had the same writting style as fukuhon
- fast lvl up
- the same behavoir
- was his little siter which is hard to believe
- wanted to join Elemental Masters such as hakulove

hakulove
- is fukuhon's student
- has the same writting styile as fukuhon
- fast lvl up
- wanted to join Elemental Masters

I know them since they were age 0 and i know that imprisoning them it's not a mistake.


Since the incident with Gabezor i learned a lot of things and i know that imprisoning those is not a mistake
Since i opened this discussion i have to tell you something : those who are caught in the XXX place known as hot bath will be imprisoned without hesitation. For more info mail me in game but not to many will receive an explanation.

About this case. As you may know i imprisoned him 2 time but somebody was releasing him using a bug witch is even worse.

I will imprison his again if he is caugh in the hot bath. If he will be released i will imprison those who were defending him even if they knew that i'm right. This is my final word and i will do what is right even if the whole NFG world will say that i'm wrong.


About what Shadow said... The game isn't dying because of the bugs and because of maring who doesn't care about the game.

martin cares about the game or at least this is what i felt while i was talking with him.

The game is dying because player leave when they see that somebody who brake the rules is free.

Yesterday an old player who knew that i talk with matin asked him if i can talk with him to change his rank missing nin because he was a senin. When i explained him about the missing nin link he asked me 3 times if it is agains the rules to use the link. This is the spirit who was keeping alive the game, not those players who make multi acc just to lvl up quick.
This is why the game is dying , those players are upsed to see players who brake the rules being defend by others. On the top of that the one who is defending them is Shadow and we all know what he did in the past.


amn@el

Juichidaime kazekage.

the reasons you listed to imprison the so called muti accounts is rather insubstantial actually
just look at diego18, hes the strongest nin in the game by far and never stops demon lvling, but how...could it be with the help of his "brother"
::Diego Mayorga::
-the "brother" of diego18
-similar names
-joined the same clan
-diego18's clan debt is always directly proportional to Diego mayorga's donations
-same writing style
-both are quick to lvl
based on your reasoning this would be the biggest multi in the game but no one cares about that, we choose to fight over the random lvl 8's that might possible be multi's

in my opinion diego18 is cheating with this second account but unless u check the ip's than we can't be sure and so Diego is free and so should the others

also, i don't see how a player who has to ask u three times about permission to use the bug is showing spirit, it clearly state in the news scroll that the missing bug is okay to use if your a sennin

Well...you see I talked a lot with fukuhon shikaku before "his sister" joined the game.He had a wrriting style totally different then other.Was the only player who use "i ame " . Then suddently appeared this 3 players who had connections with him.

sands girl -his sister
hakulove - his student
sarutobi - was friend with naruda and Fr0zen v1ru5(2 of fukuhon's friends) thought they didn't log in these a few hours that he played.

About the fast lvling... Diego is an old player who had enough time to earn money for demon training but those 3 knew about demon training since they made the accounts and on the top of that they had money for demon training though they were age 0.

I have A lot to say. First I imprisoned Hiruzen Sarutobi then someone released him...It pissed me off...so I tried writing that he will only be released by the hokage if anyone. But you are correct I will reprison him. (the first time I prisoned it looked good and proffesional.)

Shadow are you saying I should be prisoned for prisoning someone for doing wrong? Or are you saying the one who released my prisoner should be prisoned for a while?

I imprisoned him also because of constant swearing in the forums, puting up a lame act of trying not to be FUKUHON...also he was level 8 in like 1 hour of starting up...I don't care who you are; if you can do that with your first time in a game your either cheating or a multi.

As for the others amn@el imprisoned he was almost certain that they were multi's; I am inclined to agree. Multi's can't all be dealt with but ones who blatently walk in front of your face and exspect you to be stupid enough not to know are going to be imprisoned.

ok here goes...
ANBU and Kage can prison how THEY like in their village... why?
cos its a democracy.. they were voted cos they are assumed to be the BEST for running the village...
so i personally the should imprison how they belive is best, with obvious GUIDELINES from the rules.

tbh if "You dont care about this game anymore" then why would Your opinion be useful?
if You SINCERELY dont care then You wudnt even post. so You obv do in some sense.

but also it wud be better if the prison looked neater.
simple "multi" or single word reason for imprisonment shud be enough.

and Do Not Release instead of DNR looks better and is more informative to the players that do not know what this is.

Since the incident with Gabezor i learned a lot of things and i know that imprisoning those is not a mistake
Since i opened this discussion i have to tell you something : those who are caught in the XXX place known as hot bath will be imprisoned without hesitation. For more info mail me in game but not to many will receive an explanation.





good going moron,now anyone can get into the hot bath page due to your big mouth.


If he will be released i will imprison those who were defending him even if they knew that i'm right. This is my final word and i will do what is right even if the whole NFG world will say that i'm wrong.


i think you dont have proof so does that mean im definding him?


there are such things as freak occurences,and banning due to little things such as same writing style is powerabuse.Dont you think that if you grow up with someone you'd be similar to them(as well as regonal dialect)?Speaking of which,ban the diego brothers as well as naruda and tripleh dx seeing as its impossible to have reatives that play nfg.My brother in law and my cousin have nfg accounts cause i pushed them to make one and i made them join my old clan(order of the black flame),and since they live with each other,it'd be easier to help them with nfg.If you had a brother or sister who likes naruto,your saying you would NEVER tell them about nfg,and NEVER help them with it seeing as how it'd be easier to teach them since they're right there?I think people just want their name to be shown as catching someone

It's easy to go from lvl 1 to lvl 8 in a few hours of starting if your friend plays and he just tells u exactly what to do.....


(Dont spend points) Join clan > Friend donates money > Demon train > spend points after training...

Believe me you can't do this without money....unless u find a lvl 100 afk or w/e and their overequipped...


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As for the family and stuff, u can prove somone a multi...but it doesn't mean you can stop them, (I was banned...okay new email new account and I'm back in within 5 minutes) Like martin told me it was useless to prison people because well the person can make a new one...I know one of you will just say if you keep prisoning they will get fed up with making new accounts and quit and thats probably true, but while your doing that your filling up the prisons making this game look even worst...New person joins and goes to prison to see what it is and see a mile long sheet of this...

XXXX (account name) Multi Do Not Release

And people who join will think we got issues and will probably quit, or just think the people who are kages and anbu have issues, which from how I see people reply to their prisons, It wouldn't be to far fetched wouldn't it.

As for the person being released, I doubt it's a bug figuring Martin fixed the release bug back in November when I informed him of it. If there is a new one than the person that has it should read this..

(Release everyone...so we can clean the prison boards again ;) )
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What noone else thinks that the old Multi accounts can't be released now figuring they probably arnt used anymore....
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Anyways I'm sure half the stuff I wrote doesn't make sense and I'm sorry I'll reread it later when I can think a little more clearly...

id rather have a FULL and UGLY looking prison rather than people with mutlis or peopls using macros... O_O
and ofc after a while they will get fed up... HENCE the deterrent...
getting rid of one mutli/macro user is better than getting rid of NONE...
its about starting small...
at least we got rid of one...
tomorrow maybe 2...
then gradually get rid of more ofc not ALL will be caught etc...
but its better than getting rid of none...

also i do believe the clan bug is still active so its not possible to donate or anything if You are a new player because You cant join a clan right?

I agree with jazn. As for someone just playing and reaching level 8 in a matter of an hour or 2 I'd say it impossible...(you can't join anyone elses clan)

I just read something about "same writing style".

Nova, what would you say if somebody wrote "ame" instead of "am" the whole time, that somebody, who just is 1 hour old, has the very same friends as said other person and those friends are all level 90+ from another village and a few other things?

Makes it obvious to me, especially if those people were making fun of you. One of them replied to a message to me writing "O.O i think i sayed ame am srry for that am getting it from XXXX". Actually, they were not really replying but rather writing a completly new message because they wanted to mock me, the actual reply was another message.

And that was not the only thing that person wrote...

Note: "XXXX" is the replacement for a certain ninja.