Nova, why are you talking in the plural? Neo has only been a moderator, not an admin... and it's not like Aeandir is an admin anymore or that he is even returning. And although it would be good if Shika got his database access back, I am not sure if not a second admin would be neccessary to help him out.

Hehe, I mention the people i think that is fair and know the diffrent between right and wrong. The name i mention is also a thank you for helping the game out. In other words those people i "mention(yet again)" is those i think have proven to me personally are suited for the job as a admin.

I havent spoken to monkeyboy that often, but that dosent mean that i dont hear things about him or that i dont see what he done etc. ^^ and same goes for the rest i mention.

However I am just happy as long as there are some admins that can make decisions when needed.

Thx
Portgas D.Ace

THANK YOU!! Finally someone doubts me. It was getting annoying that only good things were said about me (not sarcastic). Probably the only thing bad is that I can be a little favoring, but not being perfect makes us human or something like that. But, I usually don't get really mad at people unless they have directed serious madness towards me in which case I'd probably build up a personal vendetta that will eventually die. Strange thing I've found is that, "it's just as easy to make an enemy a friend, as it is to make a friend an enemy". Yes, I am quoting myself because that's what I've learned in life.

Anyway, Moderator may be better for me time wise. My brother is doing a lot of college application and is stressed a lot and that plus homework, school, sleep, track, etc, have kept me away from NFG. I guess eventually he'll be finished, my classes may be easier, and there's a break between Winter and Spring track. But, I still wouldn't mind being an Admin ;)

PS: Still glad there is some doubt, and I wasn't really surprised it was from you Pyro. Thanks for considering it. Time to go dance with that skeleton in the closet...

Noone can doubt u nadroj because you havn't given us anything to doubt. Pyro right about not clearly understanding you though. So..what should we bring to martin for admin? like can we all agree on names that we know can do the job/ agree he needs to give admin's their power back?

No Shadow, you are not getting the idea of this. We are waiting for Martin to MAYBE read this and if he agrees with something, do it. We do not do anything but wait patiently as we do not have any other option. Martin should pick his admins himself anyways, recommendations may be nice, but he is the one who needs to be able to trust everyone.

Never underestimate your opponent. Or anyone else... I may really be an evil mastermind out to destroy everyone, or just some kid playing game...

Anyway, I'd probably prefer to be a Mod and then possibly work my way up to Adminship... I don't suppose it's fair to go straight to Admin...

I'm sort of sick of waiting...we been waiting long enough for some things why can't we just ask martin....

Asking him to do somthing worked so far, no point in sitting around to wait. The idea of this is to give him names of who the community trust, I mean he can pick whoever he wants but whatever can get the ball rolling towards more admins, mods, giving admins powers back wouldn't hurt anything.

I think you are not listening at all...

aye,martin has said multiple times(on msn anyway) that he doesnt want new admins unless the current admin retires

We need at least 2-3 admins. The game has not been changed for long enough. Beta or no beta new admins will mean that we could finnaly move something at this game. Make it go on .So what if beta will come later? There could be enough done without beta. What? Well:
For example:
-mising nin bugs
-new villages released(=also new demons)
-demon max life extendet
-an actuall usage for clan points(therefore there will be more with clans)
and many others
I don't really have any admin preferences but i would reccomend Neo(other people i don't really have in mind...)..also ..maybe Pyro

as said, we dont need new admins or something alike, we need the admins to have their powers returned.. but martin wont reply so nothing will change..

why cant we have both though?

Well, shouldn't there be more Moderators than Administrators...? So shouldn't we argue that we need more Mods, if anything?

If we could temporarily stop the posting here, until I am able to get Martin to view it. I tried to get him to view it earlier however he was too busy. Nothing more boring then reading 15pages...

true, Well I have to say every point i read so far is right.

I see the point where things are going.
We should keep the admins now and wait for beta. ( shocking its comming from me yes it is)

As neo said he was amazed by beta and i had to ask martin my self and WOW i was blown away, I am a game hopper and a beta tester for MANY games and I have records of each game i have played since i was little.

The new beta version keeps me interested even more in the game.
( Note: each game i played i always leveled my character up to lv:110+ or more and quit) Due to loss of interest and now i am interested more in beta then ever

New admins and or Mods should be reviewed AT Beta Mode and
NOTE that no admins should be switched now due to the amount of time we spend arguing on Admin switch the less time Martin has time to make BETA version.

Dark, can you clarify more about beta? I'm not sure if I'm reading this right, but have you seen what beta is suppose to look like or something?

"aye,martin has said multiple times(on msn anyway) that he doesnt want new admins unless the current admin retires"

Don't get that phrase, Martin isn't "stuck" with me, I mean com'on, if he doesn't want me in his team he could just say so... Its not like I have a contract. Besides, I doubt that Martin would have said such thing over the MSN to you Nova, simple because he is way too busy...
Although, I think we're all misinterpreting this sentence, perhaps Martin doesn't want new admins... and just stick with those he already has...

Now, let's all just patiently wait for beta shall we ;)

he did say such a thing to me :o

In fact,he started talking to ME and not the other way around that time

I think shika and neo know more about beta than they're telling,and the reason shika hasnt been as active is so he wont let anything slip about it.

there really isnt any graphics for the beta, martin said coding first art later basicly...